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Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 16 @ 11:18 PM ET
Matt Henderson: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins: Not Dead Yet
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 16 @ 11:28 PM ET
1st suck it oilhorse.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 16 @ 11:31 PM ET
Suck it Scott cullen
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 16 @ 11:49 PM ET
Suck it Jero!
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 17 @ 12:22 AM ET
3 comments, no Oilers fans...
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 17 @ 12:28 AM ET
I hope we can keep Nuge and get rid of Eberle, and 4th overall for defencemen, but if it's a dealbreaker for a #1 then we have to do it.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

May 17 @ 1:02 AM ET
I think the team in perfect. Don't change a thing!
NEONDOUBLEDION
Anaheim Ducks
Location: EDMONTON, AB
Joined: 02.04.2015

May 17 @ 1:03 AM ET
Suck it Jero!
- smellmyfinger


Is it true that he is alive?
ifiwasgm
Joined: 11.10.2014

May 17 @ 1:30 AM ET
Here is the thing:
You trade Hall, you create a huge hole,
You trade RNH, you create a hole,
You trade Eberle, you create a hole,
Hard to fix these holes.

You trade the 4th, no effect to team
You trade Yak, no effect (no return)
Maybe you trade Draisaitl (huge return)(not a huge current effect)

Tough decisions
6ringslowe
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 03.25.2016

May 17 @ 1:57 AM ET
Draisaitl probably has more value to the team despite being less proven in the NHL. Size is at a premium and Nuge doesn't have it.

That being said, it scares me like crazy to think about our top 2 centres being 19 each. If Nuge is traded, you HAVE to have a replacement for him
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 17 @ 2:01 AM ET
Sarcasm aside,

what would Eberle AND RNH get us if if they were packaged in a mega deal?

McDavid and LD play centre (Risky since LD has only 1 year of actual NHL experience, plus I think he is better on the wings), but you could sign a depth centreman from FA or try to acquire the likes of Marcus Johansson (Might cost a bit) or Brad Richardson.

You still have Pouliot, Maroon, Kassian, and Yakupov (McDavid's sniper) on the wings.

You can still use the 4th to either draft and develop Tkachuk (Winger depth) or trade it.

This team needs a #1 defender more than anything. We have a fair amount of Top 4's (Klefbom, Sekera, maybe Nurse) and ton's of Top 6's (Reinhart, Davidson, Gryba, Fayne, etc) , but we lack that #1, #2 bonafit defender. We could also try to acquire Demers who is probably the most realistic pickup I could see happening.

Hall-LD-Maroon
Pouliot-McDavid-Yakupov
Korpi-(Johansson/Richardson/FA signing)-Kassian
Hendricks-Lander-Pakarinen

Sekera-(Top #1 or #2 guy)
Klefbom-Demers
Davidson/Nurse/Reinhart-Fayne/Gryba

Talbot
Brossoit

I'm only doing this since its been quite quiet lately, plus I'm just trying to think outside the box and see what other options could be explored.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 17 @ 2:03 AM ET
Draisaitl probably has more value to the team despite being less proven in the NHL. Size is at a premium and Nuge doesn't have it.

That being said, it scares me like crazy to think about our top 2 centres being 19 each. If Nuge is traded, you HAVE to have a replacement for him

- 6ringslowe


Marcus Johansson or Brad Richardson might ring a bell. Both are logging 3rd line minutes on teams that have massive depth at centre...

Marcus Johansson might cost more but he is definitely worth it. He has a built in frame that can definitely handle the west.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 17 @ 2:19 AM ET
You'll trade for Wideman, problem solved!
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

May 17 @ 2:37 AM ET
Eberle makes the most sense to move for a asset. He has the shortest contact. He is the weakest defensively. He is the smallest Least physical of the group.

However. He is also our best pure goal scorer and one of our only right shooting players period.

I think those aspects combined with the fact Eberle may not be good enough to get back what we need in trade... Will mean Rnh or possibly even Hall end up being traded.

Our right side had become a massive black hole and moving Eberle out to bring in defense might well end up being a sideways move instead of the gain we really need.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

May 17 @ 2:42 AM ET
It sure would be nice to make the playoffs next season.

Still no goals for McDavid in the World Championships. Seems like he never wants to shoot, always wants to pass. He should shoot a little more.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 17 @ 5:04 AM ET
It sure would be nice to make the playoffs next season.

Still no goals for McDavid in the World Championships. Seems like he never wants to shoot, always wants to pass. He should shoot a little more.

- Oildrum


Playoffs next season is a bit over the top. But not being eliminated by new years would be nice.

On another note, I mentioned the idea of moving Leon back to the wing about a month ago. If the Oilers lose both Eberle and Yakupov in an effort to improve defence it's not impossible to see Leon as the #1 RW and adding someone like Brouwer to take the 2nd or 3rd RW. Adds a lot of size and grit over Eberle.

Something like:

Hall-RNH-Drai
Pou-CMD-Brouwer

Wouldn't be a bad top 6 combo of skill, speed, size, and grit. As long as they do some work to upgrade the bottom 6 and defense it should be a team that can tease us with flirting with a playoff position. Would also give them a 2nd face off option when RNH gets kicked out of the dot. Not a horrible option.
McSavioursPupil
Montreal Canadiens
Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF
Joined: 12.11.2015

May 17 @ 7:48 AM ET
You'll trade for Wideman, problem solved!
- K-man25


Ference for Wideman. Done. Plan the parade.
McSavioursPupil
Montreal Canadiens
Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF
Joined: 12.11.2015

May 17 @ 7:51 AM ET
1st suck it oilhorse.
- batjester


Well done.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 17 @ 7:52 AM ET
Pretty safe to say that after Yak and Schultz, RNH has certainly so far left us wanting more. At least on the scoresheet anyway.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 17 @ 7:52 AM ET
Suck it Jero!
- smellmyfinger

No.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 17 @ 7:54 AM ET
I hope we can keep Nuge and get rid of Eberle, and 4th overall for defencemen, but if it's a dealbreaker for a #1 then we have to do it.
- Ihatebrianburke

I'm starting to get the impression you're not an Eberle fan. Which by the way, clouds your judgement on who would actually help us long term as Oilers.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 17 @ 7:55 AM ET
Here is the thing:
You trade Hall, you create a huge hole,
You trade RNH, you create a hole,
You trade Eberle, you create a hole,
Hard to fix these holes.

You trade the 4th, no effect to team
You trade Yak, no effect (no return)
Maybe you trade Draisaitl (huge return)(not a huge current effect)

Tough decisions

- ifiwasgm

Nope. RNH doesn't leave much a hole you can't fill in free agency. 3C's are easy to find and they don't cost 6m a year.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 17 @ 7:57 AM ET
I think the team in perfect. Don't change a thing!
- DuranDuran

So do a lot of Oilers fans. They want to trade the least impactful players for really impactful ones. If it works on the XBox....
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 17 @ 7:58 AM ET
Eberle makes the most sense to move for a asset. He has the shortest contact. He is the weakest defensively. He is the smallest Least physical of the group.

However. He is also our best pure goal scorer and one of our only right shooting players period.

I think those aspects combined with the fact Eberle may not be good enough to get back what we need in trade... Will mean Rnh or possibly even Hall end up being traded.

Our right side had become a massive black hole and moving Eberle out to bring in defense might well end up being a sideways move instead of the gain we really need.

- Aerchon

Suprisingly good post!
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 17 @ 8:06 AM ET
Leon's gonna be a center going forward

It's great that he can play wing, and I think he will from time to time, but the organization is looking at him as the big 2c we want going forward. His size and ability to outmuscle opponents down low makes it almost silly to not play him in his natural role.

And I'd bet the organization puts more pure value in him than rnh going forward. And probably rightly so. The blog mentioned proven track record a few times, but the thing is rnh's track record has never put up jaw dropping numbers. Or even anything impressive enough to consider him a great 2c just yet.

I think it's probably prudent that we deal eberle or the 4th before nuge. But if we've dealt yakupov, I keep ebs and look to move Rnh

The best thing about keeping nuge is the depth factor he gives us. But then we dont wanna use it and just try and stack a line while playing him against all the toughest competition? Weird
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